As Carl Jung explains, personas are how we codify our ego in order to gain acceptance or approval. In F451 society is just the same every where. It's like a bunch of plastic housewives living in this suburb themed world. Well maybe not exactly, but really F451's society is very unhealthy. Even though the persona reveals we are healthy, the shadow shows different. How do you think the health is in F451's society? What is it about Montag's actions that make his health unique to the rest of the populace? How do you think that this line from Hoaglunds Poetry relateds to F451's society?
"[...] Delicious but unhealthy, or depending on your perspective."
Overall I believe that, F451's society is in desperate need of help. As mentioned by Captain Beatty, in the past the media was less prevelant and people were allowed to free think. Bradbury depicts this world of personas of happiness and extremely influencial media and ironically a bombing of the city in the conclusion. What is with this society?! However Montag is finally, in the end seem to be a thoughtful and emotional character. One of the last actions he does is by returning to the city in order to help survivors. He seems to realize that the world is not all about him.
The reason I put that line in is because of how it connected with the people of F451's society. Most of the people of the society choose delicious but unhealthy ways. That is they stay in their ring and feel secure and entertained by the media. However Montag steps out of the box and somewhat figures out how to retain healthy and delicious.
Any way what do you guys think?
Written by Eric
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(By the way, is this Brittany or Eric who's saying this? 'cause I can print the conversations for tomorrow and I have to know who says what. Also, thank you guys for posting so much, good job!)
I think the people in F451 are very unhealthy. Even though they are technically happy, it is a bad kind of happiness. They don't see the big picture, they only see themselves. They live in a small world and try to avoid thinking deeper or making it bigger so they can remain happy. The amount of consuming they do is also very unhealthy. Mildred and her friends just sit around all day and barely lift a finger.
I think that line from Hoaglund's Poetry relates to F451's society because most of F451's society lives off consuming and never expanding their world or helping others, which makes them feel happy and secure. It is delicious to never have to worry. It is delicious to be entertained all of the time. But it is terribly unhealthy. They are very narcissistic. They need to see what's happening around them instead of what's happening right in front of them.
Montag is different from them. He is healthier than the rest of the F451 culture because he sees the big picture. He doesn't consume and never question ideas, he contributes and asks. He understands more in the world and has a higher-level of thinking than people like Mildred. He is more like Clarisse. Even though he can feel pain more, his level of happiness is greater. There is a depth to him not seen in the F451 culture. This depth is delicious and healthy.
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